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How to prove kinship: step-by-step instructions

03 May 2023, 06:15, parser
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Why do I need to prove kinship?

Proof of kinship may be needed when making a donation agreement: if the donation is made to a close relative, then the donee is exempt from taxation.

In addition, you will probably need proof of kinship when studying the history of your family. Firstly, so to speak, for myself, in order to understand who is who to whom. Secondly, for the possibility of obtaining new documents and new data based on the data and documents that you already have.

Where to start?

First you need to make sure that you have a valid (that is, not damaged or expired) passport. And you will also need a birth certificate.

And if the birth certificate has been lost for a long time?

You can restore it. It's not difficult at all. To obtain a birth certificate, you will need to come to the registry office department where your birth was registered. If you live in another city, you can write a letter to this registry office with a request to forward a duplicate of your birth certificate to the registry office at your current place of residence.

Will I be required to do anything other than a passport?

Yes, it will be required, but not so much. You will have to fill out an application in the prescribed form (forms are almost always available in the lobby), as well as pay a state fee of 350 rubles. It is better to do the latter in advance, then you will not have to take up the queue twice. Details can be found on the website of the regional registry office, as well as in the registry office department itself: samples on stands and sometimes ready-made receipts on tables.

How long will it take to issue a duplicate?

You'll probably have to sit (or stand) in line first. Here, as luck would have it. Somewhere you will be accepted immediately, and somewhere the wait will last an hour, or even two.

But if you have been accepted and all the documents are in order, then it will take about 15 minutes to issue a duplicate. The registry office employees will be grateful to you if you provide the maximum information you have. The certificate itself is lost, but maybe a photocopy has been preserved? If this is the case, then you can extract important data from this copy: the date and number of the act record. That is, simply put, you will find out when and under what number your birth was entered in the registration books.

Can I get birth certificates of my grandparents who have already died?

Yes, in principle, it is possible. I personally received repeated birth certificates of both my grandmothers. But we need to act in stages.

So, you have a certificate of your own birth. Let's first consider the simplest case: you are a man and you want to get your paternal grandfather's birth certificate.

If the grandfather was born before the revolution, then you need to apply not to the registry office, but to the regional archive where church books are stored. There, if you are lucky, you will be able to find a certificate of the baptism of your grandfather (if he was a Christian) or some similar records - in case he belonged to another religion.

If the grandfather was born after the revolution (more precisely, since the second half of 1918), then you may well find his birth certificate.

What documents will I need for this?

To obtain a birth certificate of your paternal grandfather, first of all, you will need all the same documents as for obtaining your own birth certificate: a passport, an application, a receipt for payment of state duty.

Secondly, you will need to prove your relationship with your grandfather. How to do it? You will have to show the registry office employees one additional document — your father's birth certificate.

However, there is another point. You get a document for another person. If this person is alive, then he must issue you a power of attorney, where it would be explicitly stated that you have the right to receive documents from the Registry Office for him (usually this is included in the blank of the so-called general power of attorney). If a person has died, then you will need to prove this fact (that is, provide a death certificate), and also, again, prove kinship, because confidential information and documents are not issued to strangers.

Can I do it again, but shorter?

Of course, please. If you want to get a birth certificate of your deceased paternal grandfather, you will need:

  • your passport;
  • your birth certificate, which indicates your father;
  • father's birth certificate, in which your grandfather is listed as his father;
  • grandfather's death certificate;
  • receipt of payment of state duty;
  • application for the issuance of a re-birth certificate of your grandfather.

Can't all this be done in a simpler way?

Unfortunately, no. But if you act in stages, then all this is not so scary. If you have lost your birth certificate, restore it. If your father's birth certificate is lost, let him restore it himself or write a power of attorney for you. If the father is no longer alive, you have every right to receive his birth certificate by presenting all the necessary documents (including the father's death certificate).

And if I need to get a great-grandfather's death certificate?

This is also quite possible. Just a couple of weeks ago, I myself received the death certificate of my great—grandfather - the father of my mother's mother. I needed:

  • my passport;
  • my birth certificate;
  • my mom's birth certificate;
  • my mother's marriage certificate (to document the change of surname);
  • my grandmother's birth certificate;
  • my grandmother's marriage certificate;
  • receipt of payment of state duty.

I do not mention the application here, because in the Petty-Bourgeois department of the Registry Office of the city of Moscow, where I received this certificate, the application is filled out by the employees themselves, you just sign. This happens in some other departments of the registry office.

And if I want to get a death certificate of my great-great-grandfather?

And this, in principle, is also possible, but somewhat more complicated. Let's say your great—great-grandfather died after the revolution - then the registry office already existed. But your great—grandmother, his daughter—or, accordingly, his great-grandfather, his son-were probably born before the revolution. This means that you will need to get an archive certificate from the local archive, which will contain information from the pre-revolutionary metric book. And with all the necessary certificates issued by the registry office itself, as well as with this certificate, which you will receive not in the registry office, but in the regional archive, you will come to the registry office where the death of your great-great-grandfather was registered.

What should I do if I do not know which registry office to get this or that certificate from?

Until recently, in such cases, it was necessary to contact the regional registry office. Employees of the department made searches, and then sent you the result by mail: you can get a birth certificate, say, of your grandfather in such and such a registry office department; such and such a date, such and such an act record number.

Now the situation has changed a little, at least in Moscow. You should come to any department of the registry office (the easiest way is to the one closest to your home or work) and write an application in a special form, specifying in it the maximum available information. After that, your application goes to the same management, and you get an answer. Of course, it can be either positive or negative — in the event that nothing was found.

Where to look for documents if there is no longer the registry office where my grandmother got married?

Yes, it happens. But this does not cause much inconvenience, since all movements of archival funds are tracked and recorded. All information, as a rule, is available on the website of the regional registry office.

Is it worth doing all this at all?

This is a matter of your personal preferences. But from my experience, I can say that it's not that difficult. Having obtained a couple of registry office certificates, you acquire a certain skill. It will be easier to get the fourth and fifth certificates.

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